December Book!!

Can you believe it is already the end of November? I really can't, but what this means for us is that we need a new book. In all the bustle of the holiday, I forgot to post for suggestions! So, everyone leave a comment with a book they'd like to read or an old favorite that you think we might like and we'll decide quickly so we can all get to reading!
Also, I've heard some comments that there wasn't as much discussion as was expected, so please, if you have any suggestions for how to make disscussion easier, let me know! We'd love to have everyone participating, and I know that November probably really flew by without you realizing it. December will probably be the same, so we'll shoot for a great discussion in January!
Also, if you feel that posting a new post for every comment is too time consuming, simply add a comment to a post if you have a quick word about something. Perhaps that will get our discussions going!
Hope everyone had great Thanksgiving!

I knew that the Jew was actually Percy as soon as he appeared, because he was stooping. I thought it was funny that they were telling all of the scouts to watch out for someone that was very tall, or who appeared to stoop to hide his height. Then there is a stooping Jew right in front of them and they don't suspect? I didn't think they were too observant.

I had no idea that the Jew was Percy until Marguerite heard his voice after everyone left. I was totally clueless. Never even crossed my mind. Once again, probably because I was reading too fast to catch the clues. I'm really going to have to read this book over...
And I know what you mean about being a newlywed! ;) Although, I think it's totally us. My husband and I were talking about a couple we knew that seemed to fight a lot and I said, "Don't you remember being first married? Getting used to each other? We had a lot of little disagreements too..." And he said, "No."

Don't read the Intro

I found out who the SP was by reading the intro of my copy from the Library. I was a little discussed but I still loved reading the book. As for Marguerite my heart broke for her. The only family she felt she had was her brother. She didn't betray the SP without much hesitation and guilt. She even tried to tell her husband after the Ball but was stopped by the wall Percy refused to let down. She and her husband weren't even friends at the time she betrayed the SP so how could she even consider he might be the SP.

The relationship between Marguerite and Percy at the beginning of the book reminded me of being a newly wed. Did anyone else feel that way? Oh how those days were filled with unneeded drama and pride. Thank goodness they are long over. I was very glad to see at the end the walls on both sides of the Blakeneys marriage come down. My Question is: Did any of you suspect the Jew to be the SP?

My Answer: I thought the Jew was the SP when he came to the Inn but I was not sure until the end. The scouts report and the Red headed Jews account did not match up so I was tipped off by that.

This was a great read! I can't wait to read everyone's responses.

Everyone is justifying Marguerite for me!

After reading Mom's (Rob) post about the book, I'm looking more and more kindly on Marguerite...if the SP did listen at the door of the theatre and knew the struggle that the Frenchman had placed her in, then I forgive him for forgiving her so quickly :)
But I have to comment on you calling the SP a hypocrite--I think that he didn't tell Marguerite who he was because of what he found out she had done. I mean as the elusive SP he couldn't exactly trust someone that he thought had betrayed her fellow Frenchmen...just my thoughts.

When did I know?

I guess I read a lot of mysteries, so I pretty much suspected Percy when he and Marguerite came to the Inn. I suspected this because of the description of him, being tall, well built, etc., etc. And also, I caught on that he wasn't with Marguerite during the whole time of the visit of her brother. There seemed to be little things along in the book, that suggested that Percy was 'it': 1) his frequent absences with little or no explanation to Marguerite (is she really that dense?), 2) his all together 'too' lazy attitude, 3)How did he keep in such great physical shape if he was so lazy?, and 4) he was great friends with Sir Andrew and the other (I can't remember his name). I really enjoyed the book. I thought it was well written and, I thought, just a little predictable :)

At the Inn, I thought Sir Andrew and his cohort were a little lax in their duty, I mean, really, they can get people in and out of France with out getting caught, but they don't notice a guy climbing under the bench in the dining room, it really couldn't have been that big of a room! They should have been more vigilant.

I can't really decide if Marguerite was justified in her actions or not, considering I pretty much knew Percy was the SP from the start, so I wondered why she didn't also. However, I think Sarah has a good point, if she really didn't know, then yes, it's a no brainer to choose one's family over a stranger. She also had great respect for the SP so she was pretty sure he could get himself out of any danger, and once she knew, she did everything in her power to help him. So that's a point for her.

Now, I think that Percy was listening at the theater box door and knew exactly how he was betrayed, also there was something about the way he looked at Marguerite after he came in, as if waiting for her to tell him about the problem with her brother and hoping she would trust him with that information and when she didn't he thought he had lost.

There seems to have been several things Marguerite could have done differently in order to save her brother (but then we would have the book, if we went and changed everything!). 1) she could have confided in Percy, 2) told Sir Andrew about the plot instead of stealing his paper or 3) told the truth about herself in the very beginning and then she would have known all about him.

Which brings me to my question: Wasn't Percy just a little bit of a hypocrite? He seemed to not forgive Marguerite for not coming clean before they were married, yet he kept his secret from her and acted a totally different person than he really was. They should have trusted each other, but there again, it wouldn't be the book it is without those things. :)

Sarah's defense

You know Sarah, when you put it that way, I guess I see your point...I think I was probably thinking in a 2008 type of mode where women can get into the action and really take part and this book was written almost 100 years ago when that wasn't really the case. Good point!

My turn... (Don't even read the first line if you aren't done with the book)

At what point did I know Percy was the SP? Maybe I'm slow, but I didn't even really suspect Percy until he was the only one in the dining room, sleeping. But after that I pretty much knew for sure, though I thought Marguerite was pretty slow on the uptake!

I have a different opinion than Ranee on the second question. I think that Marguerite was pretty justified in her actions, I think she was appropriately torn up about it. She was put in an impossible position. And if you are choosing between the life of your brother and the life of a stranger, I think it would be difficult to choose the stranger. She also knew for sure that her brother would die if she did nothing, but had the hope that the SP would somehow be able to escape considering his cunning. I think that Percy knew about the betrayal because he talked to Sir Andrew, I'm guessing he filled him in. Or maybe the SP is just so all knowing, he figured it out all on his own. :) I think that Marguerite proved herself by the lengths she went to to try and warn Percy, and the fact that even if she couldn't save him she wanted to die next to him, as long as she could tell him she truly loved him. That's good enough for me! :)

I enjoyed this book a lot, and look forward to continued discussion about it!

Scarlett Pimpernel- Some Discussion Questions

Now that we have all had a chance to get into the book (I hope!), I'm going to go ahead and ask some questions (and of course post my opinions). So, if you haven't finished, you can be thinking about these initial questions as you read. And also you might want to avoid the blog until you do finish as our posts are bound to contain some spoilers. I guess it may seem kind of early, but I want to give us plenty of time to really hash it out! ;) After this first month if anyone feels like they missed out because we started discussion too early and they couldn't get into it, let me know. We'll have to fly by the seat of our pants here and see how it goes! J

Also, these are just some initial questions to get the discussion started. If it really starts going and I don't feel like we need any more prompting, I probably won't post more. Also, always feel free to pose questions of your own! The whole point is to broaden our horizons and pick up on others views. Let's get going!

Questions:

1. At what point did you begin suspecting the true identity of the Scarlet Pimpernel? When were your suspicions confirmed?
   
2. What do you think of Marguerite's motivations throughout the book? Was she justified in her actions? Why or Why not?
   

**If you have not finished the book please don't read beyond this point!!!***

So, I get to go first! How fun!

Because (as my mother pointed out—we've already been doing al little face-to-face discussion on the side J) I read too fast and skip over things sometimes, I didn't suspect that Percy was the Scarlet Pimpernel (hereafter referred to as the SP) until I realized that Percy hadn't been with Marguerite and her brother during his whole visit. And since I was still reading quickly, my suspicions were not confirmed solidly until I read that Sir Percy had been the only one in the dining room, asleep. Then I knew!!

Was Marguerite justified in betraying the SP to save her brother? I don't think so. As I told my mom, I think that once she knew what her brother was into she should have realized that he and the SP could take care of themselves. I was disappointed in her and I think that Percy took her back much too easily in the end. I think that she should have had to show more how willing she was to not only save her husband but to save others….I don't know…

And I'm a little confused on one thing. How did Percy know about her betraying him at the ball??

So with that said, Let's discuss!!

This sounds like fun! Thanks Tonya!!